Welcome to tokoni

I am more than middle aged and retired from a large fortune 500 company. I have worked hard and gotten many men promotions, while never getting meaningful promotions myself.

My experience in life is that women do not stick up for other women in business or politics. That fact became abundantly clear to me in my early 20's. I'm not sure why, but I think it's mostly out of fear of retaliation from men.

If women would demand equal and fair treatment, as blacks have commanded in the past, we would get fair treatment. We do not, as a whole, stick together, as blacks do. Until we band together and demand better treatment for all women, we will never get respect. We will always be regarded as sexual objects for a man's pleasure, emotional, and ditsy, or on the other end of the spectrum, as Jack Cafferty of CNN, referred to Hillary......the refrigadaire.....taken to mean in high school that would have been her nickname since she didn't have sex with every little boy who had a boner in his pants, but rather held herself to a higher standard.

The way women have been treated in this campaign is atrocious. Women should be shouting from the rooftops, yet we are not. I'm sure there would be a name for us such as "emotional", hormonally deficient, or something even nastier. When will this stop? Even the women who ARE in positions of authority do not stick up for us. Perhaps they need a nudge.

This forum could be the beginning of something very big, or not. We'll see.

Think about this:  When I was 18, women were not allowed to have credit. A man, any man, had to sign for me. It was not until about 1975, I believe it was, until women were allowed to have credit. After that, women's salaries were not allowed to be combined with their husband's salary to qualify for a home loan. That changed around 1977. A woman was considered risky. Of course those were the days when folks actually had to qualify to be eligible for home loans, not the sign up and get money whether you could afford it or not.......as is the sub-prime lending problem that has lead to such a mess at this time.

If you think about it, that was just yesterday for me. Getting credit was vital for any woman to become truly independent. It was, and still is, a big deal. It breaks my heart to see it abused because as sure as I'm here writing this, women will be called careless and blamed. I can feel it coming.....and some are careless, but so are some men.